This episode delves into Chapter 9 of The Great Divorce, where Lewis meets his guide—George MacDonald—and begins to grasp the spiritual logic of choice, eternity, and self-deception. Through MacDonald’s piercing insights, the landscape shifts: Hell is revealed not as punishment imposed but as a chosen mindset, and Heaven as reality itself—unchanging, solid, and offered freely. We explore the chilling portraits of souls who cling to grumbling, pride, intellectual vanity, or the need for control, even at the cost of joy. It’s a chapter that strips away illusions and poses the ultimate question: what are you holding on to that’s keeping you from grace?

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