In a special crossover episode, this week we are airing Rachel's interview on Nobody Listens to Paula Poundston‪e‬. Paula, along with her co-host Adam Felber, ask Rachel about how to define a cult, the rise of cultic tactics in politics, and the intricacies of intervention, while Paula and Adam interject with their comedic takes. We hope you enjoy this lighter, yet still insightful, conversation about a serious topic.

Before You Go: Rachel expands on the idea of interventions and deprogramming and addresses the misconceptions many people have about them. She also shares the dramatic story of a successful intervention in which she was involved.

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