As we have followed the campus protests over America's role in Israel's war against Hamas, it has called into question the way we conduct educational debate and thinking in our country. Perhaps we as a country have become too focused on grade-based education, which depends on getting the "right" answer. While in subjects like math, this is essential for proficiency, we seem to lack the ability to live in the nuance of discussion, and are chasing the one, certain, answer. Rabbi Carrie Vogel is the director for undergraduate initiatives for the American Jewish University, and joins Boyd to talk about the nuance missing from our national discussions.