In this wide-ranging discussion, the hosts recount the hauntingly similar tragedies along Texas’s Guadalupe River—where summer camps repeatedly ignored flood risks, leading to deadly disasters decades apart. They condemn media efforts to pin the floods on political figures and highlight evidence that staffing shortfalls at the National Weather Service were misrepresented. The conversation then pivots to the unresolved mysteries surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s client list, exposing how an anonymous “John Doe” intervened in court to keep names sealed from the public. Together, these stories illustrate a theme of preventable catastrophe, media distortion, and powerful interests shielding the truth.