In this week’s episode of The Follow Up, Ryan fills in as host and is joined by Jack and new staff member Ben Milkie to explore John 7, a chapter full of tension, questions, and conflicting reactions to Jesus.

They unpack the three major scenes of division—among Jesus’ brothers, the crowds in Jerusalem, and the religious leaders—and show how each group responds differently to His identity. They also dive into the rich symbolism of the Festival of Shelters, the promise of living water, and the future outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

Ryan, Jack, and Ben reflect on how Jesus’ exclusive claims naturally create division, why His mercy remains constant, and how believers can navigate modern-day tensions with humility, gentleness, and truth—especially around holidays and family gatherings.

A thoughtful, encouraging conversation for anyone wanting to understand Scripture more deeply and follow Jesus faithfully in a divided world.

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