John Gray’s writing on political philosophy is not easily pigeonholed. Over the last half century he has explored ideas that span the whole political spectrum, and pissed off just about everybody with his central thesis that growth and progress are not inevitable.

In his latest book, The New Leviathans, his attention turns to the changing fate of the west and the revival of feudalism, religious orthodoxy and ultra-nationalism. Aaron sat down with John to discuss the nonsense of centrism, the opioid epidemic and why Dune is the greatest work of science fiction.

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