On this episode of Healing is Mutual, I connect with Mathew James — a dancer, maker, and founder of Urban Tribe: platform for movement based practices. He also just so happens to work as an administrator focused on advancement and business development at the Guggenheim museum in New York.

We start our talk reminiscing about how we met studying dance at Sacramento State University, giving an homage to our faculty and the invaluable education we received from them. We talked about how impactful it was for us each to study with professionals who embodied years of experience, and how dance has informed our own professional careers in profound ways. All of this supports our thoughts on the times, and the revolution that’s occurring. Naturally, as two Gemini dancers, we oscillate between emphasizing the importance of dialogue and finding new language to articulate the revolution, as well as deepening embodiment through experience and honoring the unnamable. Mathew expressed a deep gratitude for his experience as a graduate student, dancing side by side with legends in the dance world, and this stirs a million thoughts in my head about the value of lived experience and embodiment... this is Part I