Robert Cuffy is: member of the Organizing Committee of the New York City Afrosocialist Caucus of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a member of the Org Committee of the NYC Labor Branch of the DSA, co-founder, Socialist Workers’ Alliance Guyana, and organizer with the People’s Strike Network, the NYC org of the Fight for our Lives Coalition. In part 2 we talk about the nitty gritty of the Defund demand in the specific context of the NYPD, and the importance of political debate and education in the middle of it all.