This episode's guest is editor Ellen Datlow! We talked about her new book THE DEVIL AND THE DEEP, plus we heard her thoughts on novellas growing more mainstream, her thoughts on anthologies, on why horror is booming right now, and more!

In the second hour, we discussed the movie COLD SKIN, what we're reading right now, Philip's new book SHILOH (published by Lovecraft eZine Press), and much more.

I also tried to talk about Carl Sagan and astronomy, but Philip and Kelly shouted me down...! ;)

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