"We live today in the falling apart of what I would call consumer democracy."

In this episode, New Citizenship Project co-founder and Citizens author Jon Alexander talks with our CEO Lisa Witter about the need to switch from a consumer story to citizens story in politics.

He gives examples of what citizen-led governance looks like around the world and calls on politicians to work on trusting people.

Since recording this podcast, we've hired Jon as a consultant on our Democratic Innovation work.

Jon's book recommendations: Together by Ece Temelkuran, Emergent Strategy by Adrienne Marie Brown, and Citizen's Britain by Paddy Ashdown

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