When it was founded in 2015, openai — the company behind Chat GPT — had a mission to develop artificial intelligence tools that would benefit humanity. But somewhere along the way, that mission changed.  While the use of AI in our daily lives is increasingly pervasive, the technology's toll on the environment, human rights, copyright, privacy and workers and resources in the global south is starting to mount. In her new book, leading AI reporter Karen Hao details the AI industry's pursuit of progress at any cost.

This conversation was recorded at RMIT University in partnership with Readings Bookshop on 5 September 2025.

Speakers

Karen Hao Author, Empire of AI: inside the reckless race for total domination, former Wall St Journal reporter, former senior AI editor at the MIT Technology Review, lead at the Pulitzer Centre's AI spotlight series, one of Time Magazine's Top 100 people in AI in 2025

Kobi Leins (host) Lawyer, academic, AI governance and digital ethics advisor, author, New War Technologies and International Law: The Legal Limits to Weaponising Nanomaterials