It's not often you hear the words "I'm sorry" from a politician, let alone the premier of Ontario. Last week, Doug Ford apologized for the restrictions he implemented two weekends ago, some of which were rolled back.

Hosts Steve Paikin and John Michael McGrath discuss that apology and the province's (sort of) about face on paid sick days.

Also, Heidi Tworek, associate professor at the University of British Columbia and health communications researcher, joins the podcast to discuss how the provincial government can change its approach to pandemic communications.

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