This week Kate and Doree welcome showrunner Shadi Petosky (Danger & Eggs), who discusses her simplified self-care routine, how to run a business without running yourself down, and what it's like to get glammed up for Elton John's Oscar party. They also celebrate Doree's book (Startup: A Novel) coming out in paperback by reminiscing about their friendship and book-writing journey. Plus Kate commits to eating leafy greens each day and Doree gets serious about her work schedule.

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Theme music by Riot.

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