What if your rabbi’s outfit had more to do with your spiritual experience than you ever imagined? In this eye-opening episode of In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning, Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Landi dive deep into the controversial world of fashion, physical presentation, and the unique scrutiny faced by rabbis—especially women—in Jewish communities.

You’ll be shocked by the stories shared, from being asked to “turn into a man” for ceremonies in Israel to being gifted shoes by congregants in the U.S., all revealing just how much clergy are judged by how they look, and how these judgments intersect with power, gender, and leadership. Rabbi Landi opens up about the internal and external pressures faced around style, body image, and what it means to “look” like a rabbi, while Rabbi Jaffe explores the low expectations men benefit from and what happens when these stereotypes get perpetuated—even by bobbleheads!

The conversation isn’t just about clothes: it’s about identity, boundaries, values, and how congregational norms shape everything—even which career doors open for female and LGBTQ rabbis. From the theological meaning behind priestly garments in the Torah to the real-life negotiations rabbis must make between authenticity and relatability, this episode will make you rethink what you see (and don’t see) at the pulpit.

Whether it’s deciding what to wear for the High Holidays, figuring out the messaging behind headbands and kipot, or considering the subtle double standards for women in leadership, Rabbis Jaffe and Landi bring humor, vulnerability, and gripping honesty to a taboo topic. If you’ve ever wondered how much appearance matters in sacred spaces—or how to respectfully address your clergy—this is the episode you can’t miss.

Episode Highlights & Timestamped Overview:

• [00:00:00] Intro: What rabbis look like and why congregations care
• [00:01:17] Rabbi Landi’s Israel stories: Being asked to find a man for ceremonies
• [00:02:45] Challenges for women in leadership; rabbinic fashion scrutiny
• [00:04:17] Real congregant interactions: Unexpected comments and gifts
• [00:05:10] Bobbleheads & Rabbi stereotypes: The “old man” caricature
• [00:06:09] Clothing, identity & Torah: Meaning behind priestly garments
• [00:10:16] Formality, approachability, and synagogue culture shift
• [00:11:01] Robes, tallit, and the pressures of female clergy presentation
• [00:12:11] Gender roles, dress codes, and contradictory feelings
• [00:13:05] Head coverings as a statement: Politics, identity, and fashion
• [00:17:07] Synagogue “norms”; double standards for female clergy
• [00:19:02] Navigating rabbinic identity in Israel vs. the U.S.
• [00:23:29] The “whole package” dilemma for female rabbis
• [00:26:05] Authenticity and relatability: Sharing personal life on the bima
• [00:32:10] Dress & awe: Creating sacred moments vs. showing up “as you are”
• [00:34:46] Gendered interactions: Congregant stories about body boundaries
• [00:38:41] Practical advice for respectfully addressing female clergy
• [00:41:14] Social media, taboo, and owning rabbinic style

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