In this conversation, Brian Karem interviews Greg Olear, author and political writer, about his newest book, Politics. They discuss various topics including Greg's previous book, Father Mucker, the content of his new book, Rough Beast, and the potential consequences of a Trump re-election. They also touch on the importance of humor in dealing with the current political climate and the dangers of Project 2025 from the Heritage Foundation. The conversation covers topics such as the influence of conservative Catholics and evangelical Christians in the United States, the role of religion in politics, the impact of the Supreme Court, the division in American politics, and the communication challenges of the Biden administration.

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