Welcome to Episode 5, “ A Journey Not a Destination,” of The Heart of a Disciple Podcast. 

This podcast episode is the finale of a 5-part series of conversations with the author of the book, “The Heart of a Disciple,” Bob McCarty, and ministry leaders Lisa Martinez and Tammi McCarthy.

• If you missed the introduction to this series in Episode 1, "Pilgrims Traveling Together," we encourage you to go back and listen here.
• Episode 2 is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/does-my-path-have-heart/
• Episode 3 is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/living-the-jesus-dream/
• Ep 4 is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/healing-wholeness-faithfulness/
• This episode, 5, is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/journey-not-destination/

Chapter 12: Hearts on Fire 

Key points:

• We are surrounded by “saints” - though most have not been canonized!
• Saints are witnesses to living with heartsight.
• The communion of saints binds us to all those past and present who live with steadfastness and faithfulness.

Key questions:

• Saints seem to be holy persons from the past. How would we recognize a “saint” today?
• How can the “communion of saints” strengthen our spiritual journey?
• How can we make the “communion of saints” more tangible and real today?

Chapter 13: Following Your Heart

Key points:

• Recalibration is actively choosing a preferred, grace-filled future.
• Recalibration is a Holy Saturday experience.
• Change and transition can be scary and seem overwhelming.

Key questions:

• How have you experienced recalibration?
• What prevents people from choosing different paths, occupations, relationships, or even locales?
• How is recalibration an experience of “Holy Saturday?”

Chapter 14: A Liminal Heart

Key points:

• The Church is facing a liminal time, crossing a threshold into unknown realities.
• We have competing ecclesiologies: bunker mentality versus field hospital.
• Having a personal “kingdom litany” helps us navigate the uncertainty.

Key questions:

• Describe the competing ecclesiologies in practical terms.
• Say more about the Church as “volcano” and why that is a hopeful image.
• How does a “kingdom litany” provide perspective in turbulent times?

Chapter 15: My Heart

Key points:

• The journey itself, rather than the destination, has meaning, value, and purpose.
• Touchstones provide a compass on our spiritual journey.
• Each person and/or family should identify their guideposts for their journey.

Key questions:

• Describe your touchstones … what provides you direction as you navigate the complexity of Church, life, and spiritual journey?
• How did you develop your pilgrim guideposts? Was this a gradual process or a more intentional decision?
• How has your “inspirational Church” fostered your personal spirituality and discipleship?

Episode 5 Journal Question:

How have I experienced recalibration through this journey?

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This podcast is sponsored by: 

The Mark D. Pacione Foundation: https://pacionefoundation.com/ 

And Paulist Press: https://www.paulistpress.com/Default.aspx

Special thanks to:

Tammi McCarthy, podcast co-host, Founder of Whispers of Love & Faith. founding member of Little With Great Love, Catholic speaker. Read more about Tammi here.

• Website: https://whispersofloveandfaith.com/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/whispersofloveandfaith
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whispersofloveandfaith

Joe Coleman, podcast sound technician:

• Website: https://colemancreates.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joecolemanfreelance