C&MA President David Hearn stops by the podcast studio for a brief chat about what's facing the denomination, including the toughest challenge as well as the greatest opportunity for the Church today.

We also chat about what he's most looking forward to for General Assembly 2018 with the theme "Deeper with Jesus, Deeper on Mission." Dave is known and loved for his passionate heart for Jesus and His Church and that passion is clearly evident in this 20-minute interview.

He also answers the burning question "Will he run for a third term in 2020?"