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Ep15: On Justice Reform: Alternatives to Incarceration & Making Safer Communities | Lisa Daugaard


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In this episode of Bombardened, Eric and Amy Barden sit down with Lisa Daugaard—MacArthur Fellow, co-founder of the Law Enforcement Assisted Diversion (LEAD) program, and longtime advocate for criminal justice reform. Lisa shares how her career as a public defender and activist led to pioneering new models that divert people away from jails and courts and toward community-based care.

The conversation moves through Lisa’s personal journey, the systemic failures that keep communities trapped in cycles of incarceration, and the practical solutions she and her colleagues are building to replace punishment with restoration. Eric and Amy bring in their own experiences from law enforcement and nonprofit work, creating a candid, often challenging dialogue about safety, accountability, and what true reform looks like on the ground.

This episode is a thoughtful and unflinching look at how communities can reimagine justice—offering listeners not just critique but a path forward toward healing, safety, and dignity.
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