Turning 40 isn’t just about getting older—it’s about waking up to what truly matters. 💫

In this raw and honest conversation, Rachel Holden and Naomi Haramai unpack what it means to embrace the feminine genius in today’s world — diving deep into the realities of parenthood, marriage, faith, and purpose beyond the glamour.

From the chaos of family life to the quiet moments of grace, they share wisdom on:

✨ Finding identity through faith

💪 Balancing vocation and personal growth

💔 Healing from wounds and rediscovering joy

👨‍👩‍👧 Living out Catholic values in a modern culture

Whether you’re navigating your 30s, 40s, or just figuring out who God’s calling you to be — this conversation will challenge, comfort, and inspire you to live with purpose.

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[00:00:02] - Opening & Introduction

[00:01:30] - The Reality of the Grind

[00:03:00] - The Middle Years: Faithfulness in the Ordinary

[00:04:23] - Chaos, Mundanity, and Small Wins

[00:05:56] - The Unseen Work of Parenthood

[00:07:23] - Not Selling Parenthood

[00:08:14] - Disillusionment and the Divorce Culture

[00:11:45] - Redemption Through Suffering

[00:13:07] - Leaning Into Church Wisdom

[00:15:07] - The Quiet Grind and Lost Legacy

[00:18:42] - Population Crisis and Countercultural Family Life

[00:25:24] - Resisting a Self-Centered World

[00:29:47] - Discovering Gender Complementarity in Marriage

[00:33:22] - The Deeper Meaning of Giving & Receiving

[00:35:48] - Two Wholes, Not Two Halves

[00:41:04] - Wholeness, Completeness, and Uniqueness

[00:47:44] - Original Wounds and Redemption

[01:01:56] - Healing One Another’s Wounds in Marriage

[01:13:33] - Modern Gender Dynamics & Resignation

[01:16:13] - The Sacrifice Play: Reversal of the Fall

[01:19:30] - The Four Pillars of Feminine Genius

[01:24:45] - The Call to Spiritual Motherhood

[01:27:24] - The Beauty in the Grind: Life Beyond the Highlight Reel

[01:33:21] - The Fruits of Faithfulness

[01:35:26] - Finding Beauty in the Mess

[01:39:02] - Sacrifice and Courage in Gender Roles

[01:41:43] - Persecution and Respect

[01:45:30] - Remember Your Identity.

[01:52:18] - Closing Thoughts: Vocation, Identity, and Resources.