In this episode, Jason and Andrew go back to our roots and have a chat with Crystal Mayor, Jim Adams. What happens when people stand up to abusive power and begin to govern? Do things really change? In short, absolutely they can. What's it like to actually govern? Can a city council stand up to the pressures of high density housing, complete streets, and "free" money? The answer is yes, and this podcast is about to give you a ton of hope for your city.