In this episode of Overall HR, Chase sits down with inclusion strategist Amri B. Johnson to unpack the complexities of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in organizations. They tackle common misconceptions, the balance between meritocracy and DEI, and how data-driven hiring can foster genuine workplace diversity. The discussion also dives into the challenges of navigating polarized DEI conversations, emphasizing the need for curiosity, empathy, and fact-based decision-making. Amri highlights actionable strategies for creating inclusive cultures where all employees can thrive, even amidst social and political divides.