If you listen to this, you will learn that Deborah Delisle is an amazing leader. As the president and chief executive officer of All4Ed, past CEO of ASCD, and was the U.S. assistant secretary of elementary and secondary education, she provides insights and wise advice from a leadership perspective. Deb and Jeff try to focus on the topics of innovation, underserved students, and working in teams, but they go even deeper than planned. This is an honest and heartfelt conversation, and we are so thankful for this Leader Chat.