In this heartwarming episode of the Trail Network podcast, host Katie Asmuth sits down with two incredible athletes and friends, EmKay Sullivan and Abby Hall, for what just might be the feel-good story of 2025. The trio dives into big life updates—most notably, EmKay’s exciting pregnancy—and the ripple effect it had on her racing season.

When EmKay earns a coveted golden ticket to Western States but is unable to use it, she has the opportunity to pass it on to Abby. Together, they reflect on what this moment has meant for them personally and professionally, and how friendship, timing, and mutual respect played a role in this opportunity.

Please note: This episode was recorded prior to the Canyons race, so any mentions of race plans reflect that timing.

It’s a conversation about gratitude, change, and the power of community in the trail running world.

This episode is edited and produced by the Sandyboy Productions Podcast Network.

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