If God’s love truly includes everyone, what does that say about how we live, forgive, and belong? In this conversation, Jeromy Johnson and Pastor Chris Jorgensen step into the deep waters of progressive Christianity and Christian universalism—the belief that divine love leaves no one out.

Together they wrestle with fear, faith, justice, and the mystery of divine abundance—why grace feels unfair to those who think they’ve earned it, and liberating to those who know they can’t. Because maybe God’s justice looks nothing like ours, and that’s good news for everyone.

This isn’t a debate; it’s an exploration of the radical inclusivity of God, where mercy and mystery meet. Because when love stops keeping score, everyone gets some.

So wherever you are on the path—questioning, curious, or clinging to hope—remember: the table is still set. Grace has room for you, and for them, and for us all.

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