Vann Newkirk is the host of "Floodlines," The Atlantic's documentary podcast examining "mythmaking" and misinformation during and after Hurricane Katrina. Brian Stelter asks Newkirk about parallels between the U.S. response to the hurricane and the coronavirus pandemic; the role of the press; and the lessons that should be learned from both crises. He describes "the lag between the reality, the disaster dawning on us, and people actually moving to confront it," saying "we had that same kind of lag from every level of government" in response to the pandemic "that really cost us a whole lot in the long run."

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