On today's podcast episode, Jared shares the details that he can remember from his drinking and drug use.  He touches on his own shame, his lack of a relationship with God and his determination to not accept help.

Episode 26 and Episode 27, parts 1 and 2 of the interview, are a great place to start with this interview so that you don't miss any details.

I also address 2 themes that kept coming to mind as Jared spoke -- friends and hitting rock bottom.  

Finally, I share briefly what our role is in these moments, with the caveat that young people have to choose us as well.  

As Always, 

Keep Showing Up and Keep Listening

Deb Schroeder