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What happens when the thing that defined you no longer defines you?
In this episode of Winning The Away Game, Justinus Adriaanse and Flip van der Merwe sit down with rugby international and Behind The Ruck co-host Rudy Page, alongside former banking executive, helicopter pilot, and Relocated South African founder Jan Higu.
From professional sport to entrepreneurship, from executive leadership to immigration, this conversation explores the uncomfortable reality of starting over. Both guests share deeply personal stories about identity, purpose, fear, reinvention, and what it takes to build something meaningful after success.
If you've ever faced a major life transition, wondered what's next, or felt like you're starting from zero again, this episode is for you.
Key Takeaways
Why losing your identity can be harder than losing your job
How Rudy Page rebuilt purpose after retiring from professional rugby
Lessons Jan learned from leaving corporate leadership and moving abroad
Why vulnerability creates stronger communities than perfection
The hidden emotional costs of immigration and reinvention
How continuous learning becomes your greatest advantage in a second career
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:10 Favourite Springbok Memories
06:58 Why Rudy Retired From Rugby
08:40 Starting Behind The Ruck
10:40 Losing Purpose After Sport
14:20 Reinventing Yourself Multiple Times
16:00 Immigration, Adversity and Resilience
21:10 Learning Podcasting From Scratch
24:40 Lessons From Rugby That Still Matter
28:30 Why Jan Left Corporate Life
31:20 The Reality Of Living Abroad
36:00 Helicopters, Celebrities and Risk
39:30 Fear, Faith and Uncertainty
43:00 When Things Go Wrong Overseas
47:30 Identity After Success
53:00 Final Reflections
Listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/26fB2unP9Ih6IA3QkjnGQF?si=4b4380f24a144716
Listen on Apple:
https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/winning-the-away-game/id1853818584
Connect with Justinus:https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinusadriaanse/
Connect with Flip:https://www.linkedin.com/in/flipvandermerwe/
Check out our other channels:
Website: https://wtagpodcast.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/winning-the-away-game-podcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wtag_podcast/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wtag_podcast
Winning The Away Game is produced by Jonathan Warncke
Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%8E%99-jonathan-warncke-45b2095/
Ping Productions: https://www.pingproductions.net/
By Ping ProductionsWhat happens when the thing that defined you no longer defines you?
In this episode of Winning The Away Game, Justinus Adriaanse and Flip van der Merwe sit down with rugby international and Behind The Ruck co-host Rudy Page, alongside former banking executive, helicopter pilot, and Relocated South African founder Jan Higu.
From professional sport to entrepreneurship, from executive leadership to immigration, this conversation explores the uncomfortable reality of starting over. Both guests share deeply personal stories about identity, purpose, fear, reinvention, and what it takes to build something meaningful after success.
If you've ever faced a major life transition, wondered what's next, or felt like you're starting from zero again, this episode is for you.
Key Takeaways
Why losing your identity can be harder than losing your job
How Rudy Page rebuilt purpose after retiring from professional rugby
Lessons Jan learned from leaving corporate leadership and moving abroad
Why vulnerability creates stronger communities than perfection
The hidden emotional costs of immigration and reinvention
How continuous learning becomes your greatest advantage in a second career
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:10 Favourite Springbok Memories
06:58 Why Rudy Retired From Rugby
08:40 Starting Behind The Ruck
10:40 Losing Purpose After Sport
14:20 Reinventing Yourself Multiple Times
16:00 Immigration, Adversity and Resilience
21:10 Learning Podcasting From Scratch
24:40 Lessons From Rugby That Still Matter
28:30 Why Jan Left Corporate Life
31:20 The Reality Of Living Abroad
36:00 Helicopters, Celebrities and Risk
39:30 Fear, Faith and Uncertainty
43:00 When Things Go Wrong Overseas
47:30 Identity After Success
53:00 Final Reflections
Listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/26fB2unP9Ih6IA3QkjnGQF?si=4b4380f24a144716
Listen on Apple:
https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/winning-the-away-game/id1853818584
Connect with Justinus:https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinusadriaanse/
Connect with Flip:https://www.linkedin.com/in/flipvandermerwe/
Check out our other channels:
Website: https://wtagpodcast.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/winning-the-away-game-podcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wtag_podcast/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wtag_podcast
Winning The Away Game is produced by Jonathan Warncke
Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%8E%99-jonathan-warncke-45b2095/
Ping Productions: https://www.pingproductions.net/