In this lively and enlightening episode, Tawana sits down with her elementary school friend, the dynamic Pastor, Rev. Dion Watkins (they go back to kindergarten paper graduation hats), for a deep dive into the essence of effective leadership. They explore how to lead with love, the importance of strategic planning, and the necessity of taking Sabbath moments to recharge. Dion shares his insights on the narcissism of thinking an organization can’t function without you, while Tawana reflects on her journey as a nurturing leader and mother. Together, they offer wisdom on empowering others, delegating responsibility, and maintaining creativity.