In today's episode, LovePastors host Gary Underwood reconnects with his grad-school roommate and lifelong friend, Kary Oberbrunner. Back in 1998, these two were pursuing Pastor training and Seminary degrees and very similar futures in church leadership. Less than a decade later, Kary began to express his inward journey and personal struggles through writing books like Your Secret Name and Fine Line. God started to draw Kary's heart and hopes beyond his pastoral job description to a radical new life as an entrepreneur, author, business leader, conference speaker, and igniter of souls. Was Kary "done" pastoring? Or was God enlarging Kary's pastor heart, network, and influence to transform people for Christ all around the world?

KARY OBERBRUNNER is a Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestselling author of more than a dozen books. As CEO of Igniting Souls and Blockchain Life, he helps authors, entrepreneurs, and influencers publish, protect, and promote their Intellectual Property and turn it into 18 streams of income. His companies are committed to: Setting Free World-Changing Ideas. An award-winning novelist, screenwriter, and inventor, he’s been featured in Entrepreneur, Forbes, CBS, Fox News, Yahoo, and many other major media outlets. 

As a young man, he suffered from severe stuttering, depression, and self-injury. Today a transformed man, Kary ignites souls. He speaks internationally on a variety of topics including leadership, personal growth, human performance, blockchain technology, and entrepreneurship. As a futurist, he often consults on marketing, branding, Intellectual Property, and Web3.

He has several earned degrees, including a Bachelor of Arts, Masters in Divinity, and Doctorate in Transformational Leadership. He also serves as the Berry Chair of Entrepreneurship at Cedarville University, where he teaches on the topics of Entrepreneurship and Digital Marketing. Kary enjoys cycling, especially in the French Alps. He lives in Ohio with his wife Kelly and three children: Keegan, Isabel, and Addison.