Michele Ferrario didn’t set out to become an entrepreneur. From McKinsey to private equity, Rocket Internet, and Zalora, his path built confidence until the right problem—and the right partners—pushed him to co-found StashAway in 2016. In this episode, Michele reflects on serendipity, culture, leadership style, and the delicate balance between empowerment and control. A consistent theme in his journey is that frugality buys freedom—less reliance on capital markets, more control of the company’s future.

Show Notes

• [00:40] Show intro
• [02:11] Guest welcome: Michele Ferrario, Co-Founder & CEO of StashAway, South East Asia and the Middle East's largest digital wealth manager
• [03:10] Career journey from McKinsey to Rocket Internet to Zalora
• [05:13] Discovering a personal pain point with wealth management
• [07:12] Finding co-founders Nino and Freddie through a series of coffees
• [11:08] Navigating disagreements and building consensus as a leadership team
• [15:22] Entrepreneurial superpower: attracting and empowering talent
• [18:13] Struggles in balancing empowerment with control
• [21:11] Building a resilient leadership team over nine years
• [23:39] Avoiding key-man risk in a financial institution
• [27:07] Transparency through including the C-suite in board meetings
• [27:15] Quick-fire entrepreneur hacks
• [34:43] One lesson if starting StashAway over: why frugality buys freedom
• [36:35] Show outro

Quick-Fire Recommendations

Books

• Radical Candor by Kim Scott → Amazon
• The 3HAG Way by Shannon Byrne Susko → Amazon
• The Goal by Eliyahu M. Goldratt → Amazon
• Good to Great by Jim Collins → Amazon
• Great by Choice by Jim Collins → Amazon

Tools/Apps

• Gemini (Google AI)
• Google Calendar

Daily Habits

• 15–20 minutes of morning exercise
• Dedicated time with his four children to stay grounded

Advice

• From Oliver Samwer (Rocket Internet): If every day you make two steps forward and one step backward, you’re fine—you’re going in the right direction.