This week Joey and Ben go a different direction. No giants. No Saturn. No underground bases (well, a little). Just two grown men telling the truth about how God found them.

Joey shares the night a demonic apparition appeared in his college dorm, the prayer his mom taught him as a kid that he didn't understand until that moment, and the blue blanket of God's presence that swept the room and changed his life. Then the Pentecostal youth camp, being slain in the Spirit for the first time, learning what speaking in tongues actually is, and the journey from Catholic to non-denominational to Pentecostal worship leader.

Ben shares fragments of his own story (the full testimony is coming in a future episode) and the two of them go deep on what forgiveness actually does, why holding onto offense gives the enemy a legal foothold, what really happened when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, the temple of Solomon and the Shamir, Psalm 18 and the God who rode a cherub down through the clouds, the Mount Hermon transfiguration connection, and the wild possibility that there's now a Quartet instead of a Trinity.

Plus: Jacked Jesus. Riding the devil like a sandworm from Dune. And why the only soul the devil came up here to get was the one in the Constantine movie.

🎙 Ground Zero Podcast — hosted by Joseph Charafi & Benjamin Richau

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