[CW: Mention of self harm] Linde talks to Alex about his complex racial identity journey as the son of Vietnamese refugees. Alex shares about:

- Being pushed away from Vietnamese community, finding a home in the Chicano community instead and wanting to be a gang member

- Coping with his mom’s cancer diagnosis and a breakup in college

- Finding healing through ethnic studies and becoming curious about the Vietnam war, which his dad fought in

- Reconnecting with the Vietnamese community, and some of the difficult political dynamics involved

- Feeling disconnected from the umbrella Asian American story, which typically draws from upper-middle class and East Asian narratives