The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 3 - Trust but Verify


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In Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive deep into the breaking news from the White House, where President Donald Trump met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky amid a historic summit involving top European leaders and NATO officials. This hour focuses on the high-stakes negotiations to end the Russia-Ukraine war, with Trump positioning himself as a mediator and signaling the possibility of a trilateral meeting with Vladimir Putin.

Key highlights include Trump’s insistence on a long-term peace agreement, not just a short-term ceasefire, and his refusal to rule out U.S. troop involvement in Ukraine as part of potential security guarantees. The discussion explores the complexities of structuring a durable peace deal, comparing possible arrangements to the Korean DMZ model, with Ukrainian forces on the front line, European peacekeepers in secondary positions, and U.S. forces in a tertiary role safeguarding American economic interests.

The hosts analyze NATO’s role, Trump’s push for increased European defense spending, and the leverage his strong connection with the Republican base gives him in negotiations. They also examine the geopolitical risks, including the possibility of direct U.S.-Russia conflict, the role of China in enabling the war, and the need for secondary sanctions on nations like China and India buying Russian oil.

Former Reagan-era defense official Frank Gaffney Jr. joins the conversation, offering insights on why security guarantees for Ukraine are critical yet challenging, the likelihood of Putin’s compliance, and the strategic necessity of holding China accountable. The hour also touches on historical parallels, the future of NATO, and the long-term implications for global security.

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