Former Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy sits down with former prosecutor and Illinois GOP chairman Pat Brady to unpack the Laquan McDonald shooting, the DOJ’s 2017 findings, and the court-ordered consent decree that reshaped CPD. From how the video was sealed and later released to who actually investigates police shootings, the conversation digs into process, policy, and politics.

McCarthy lays out the “Chicago Plan,” CompStat, and procedural-justice training; Brady brings a prosecutor’s lens on investigations, money-laundering task forces, and federal oversight. Together they weigh reform, results, morale, and the costs of getting it wrong.

00:00 — Introduction

01:00 — Who is Pat Brady?

02:00 — Brady’s Law-Enforcement Resume

03:00 — Task Forces & “Follow the Money”

04:30 — Laquan: The Night, The Video, The Shock

06:45 — Sealing the Video & City Hall Timeline

08:10 — Who Investigates Police Uses of Force

10:10 — Release, Protests, “Cover-Up” Narratives

12:20 — Firing vs. Resignation

14:50 — Metrics Under McCarthy

17:10 — DOJ Investigation Critique

20:40 — Pattern/Practice, Reasonable Suspicion & Standards

23:40 — From Task Forces to Beat Accountability

28:30 — Procedural Justice & The Chicago Plan

30:40 — CompStat & Accountability

33:00 — Consequences & Morale

36:30 — Consent Decree Dollars & Monitors

39:30 — Accreditation & Reform Stacks

43:30 — Violence Reduction Network & Community Work

47:20 — Stop and Frisk

50:00 — Leadership, Assignments & Community Reaction

52:30 — Final Reflections

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