The sales coach and founder of Smart Gets Paid, Leah Neaderthal, returned to talk with host Darrell Vesterfelt about how to mentally and practically approach your business in these trying and uncertain times (and why you might not need to “pivot”).
In this week’s conversation, Darrell and Leah go into more in-depth strategies to “… master business development,” and keep those critical clients happy during times when everyone has a heightened sense of anxiety and fear.
In this episode, Darrell and Leah discussed:

 How Leah started her own business … right on the heels of a recession
 The two most important marketing tools to laser-focus right now
  Why your clients need “painkillers, not vitamins”
  How you should view your pipeline and client’s buying behaviors
  Why it’s more important than ever to be visible and valuable
  Creative solutions for making yourself the safest option
  How to provide a sense of stability for your clients (past, present, and future)
  And much more!

The Show Notes

  Smart Gets Paid
  Leah Neaderthal on LinkedIn
  Darrell on Twitter


How to Get (and Keep) Clients in Uncertain Times, Featuring Leah Neaderthal

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(6:06) — Tim: Can you get past your immediate circle?
(12:25) — Matt: Pick one topic, one platform, for one audience
(16:40) — Tim: Don’t be an expert or idol when you aren’t
(22:43) — Matt: Are you making content for fun, or are you building a business?
(27:30) — Tim: Real artists don’t starve
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007: Best Advice for New Creators

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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (⁠@mattragland⁠) and Nat Eliason (@nateliason) jam about what it actually takes to be a creator. Topics include Nat’s take on niching down, the main ways creators become replaceable, choosing between money and passion, why consistency alone isn’t enough, and much more.
(3:18) — Nat’s article Be Yourself, Not a Niche
(7:23) — The #1 way creators fail
(16:10) — Nat’s article When the Money’s Just Too Damn Good
(25:28) — Do you care enough to make your content great?
(32:25) — The illusion that success comes quickly as a creator
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006: Nat Eliason on What It Actually Takes To Be a Creator

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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (⁠@mattragland⁠) and Tim Forkin (⁠@timforkindotcom⁠) discuss equity for creators — more specifically, how and why creators should think about owning pieces of others’ businesses.
Stories include MKBHD’s deal with Ridge, the launch of Authors Equity, Blenders X Coach Prime, Pop Daddy Snacks and more.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(1:45) — Rundown of today’s show
(2:40) — MKBHD’s deal with Ridge
(10:48) — Authors Equity, backed by Tim Ferriss, James Clear and Louise Penny
(16:31) — James Clear’s new app, Atoms
(20:41) — The two ways creators can get equity in businesses
(21:41) — How John Barchard negotiated a deal to own part of an English soccer club in exchange for content
(25:45) — How Pop Daddy Snacks scaled their business by becoming a creator
(29:19) — How Blenders landed Deion Sanders to be their flagship “creator”
(36:33) — The creator skills you have are enough to own someone else’s business
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005: How Creators Can Get Equity In Their Favorite Companies

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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (⁠@mattragland⁠) and Tim Forkin (⁠@timforkindotcom⁠) push through initial feelings of not wanting to record. The conversation evolves into how creators can make the most of their limited time — both in what they spend their time on and the quality of what they create.
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(1:43) — Rundown of today’s show
(2:45) — Doing the work when you don’t feel like it
(7:45) — Managing capacity when you have limited time to create
(20:11) — Managing quality when you have limited time to create
(26:48) — How consistent writers can succeed on YouTube with little time
(30:32) — Are you prioritizing production value quality or message quality?
(36:45) — The middle is not where you want to be
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (⁠@mattragland⁠) and Tim Forkin (⁠@timforkindotcom⁠) talk about the value of niching down as a creator and what it can do for your business. 
After, we’re sharing the highlights from Justin Welsh’s (@thejustinwelsh) session at the HeyCreator Summit. Justin dives deep on why creators need to focus on outcomes, being unique, and defining their voice.
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(1:43) — Rundown of today’s show
(4:39) — Become someone other people recommend
(10:10) — Being specific allows you to be broad
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How to Get (and Keep) Clients in Uncertain Times, Featuring Leah Neaderthal

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