On Land-Grant Holy Land In Conversation, we talk to people in and around Ohio State athletics, and the sporting world at large, to bring you a different insight and perspective to the teams, athletes, and university that you love.

On today's episode, Matt is in conversation with Ohio State legend and Big Ten Network analyst Joshua Perry. Last week, Perry and former Ohio State teammate Evan Spencer launched a new podcast called "Glory Days: Dreams and Nightmares" that looks back at the 2014 National Championship season. They go inside the ups and downs to the season to give a perspective that only players who lived through it can provide.

Joshua also gives his thoughts on the newly announced B1G-Pac-12-ACC Alliance, the Big Ten pecking order in 2021, and what he expects from the Buckeyes, especially behind a new quarterback. And SPOILER ALERT: He is much higher on OSU's season-opening opponent, the Minnesota Golden Gophers, than most other analysts are.

Connect with Joshua Perry

Twitter: @RIP_JEP

Glory Days: Dreams and Nightmares: www.glorydayspodcasts.com and anywhere you get podcasts

Connect with Matt Tamanini

Twitter: @BWWMatt

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