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Welcome to The "Designers Show" by Chief Experts, where design isn't just an art—it's a profit center!
In this episode of The Designers Show, we’re joined by NKBA veteran and design powerhouse Robin Fisher for an in-depth (and very human) walkthrough of the brand-new 5th Edition NKBA Kitchen & Bath Design Guidelines.
Robin spills the behind-the-scenes details on what’s changed, what’s reorganized, and why this new edition finally reflects how designers actually work. From real-life accessibility solutions and updated clearance dimensions to kitchen island power struggles and—yes—why no one should be table dancing on a 15" quartz overhang, this conversation covers it all.
We’ll also get into:
Why the 5th edition is easier to use than ever
Hot takes on lighting placement, appliance zones, and ADA appliances
When to follow the rules—and when to trust your gut
The dreaded island outlet code (and how designers are skirting it)
If you design kitchens, baths, or the 12 other “not-my-job-but-now-it-is” spaces in a home, this episode is packed with practical tips, honest stories, and the kind of code talk that won’t put you to sleep.
🛠️ Bonus: Stick around for resources you can start using today—including free code lookups and downloadable ergonomic guides.
🎧 Listen now and find out why the new NKBA guidelines are more than just a redesign—they're a redesigners’ secret weapon.
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🖥 Dan's Website
💻 RSVP for The Designers Show
😊 Dan's Social Accounts
About the Co-Hosts:
John Schrader
Kevin Transue
Robin Rigby Fisher
Rene Rabbitt
By Chief Experts Dan Baumann, John Schrader, Rene Rabbitt, Robin Fisher & Kevin TransueWelcome to The "Designers Show" by Chief Experts, where design isn't just an art—it's a profit center!
In this episode of The Designers Show, we’re joined by NKBA veteran and design powerhouse Robin Fisher for an in-depth (and very human) walkthrough of the brand-new 5th Edition NKBA Kitchen & Bath Design Guidelines.
Robin spills the behind-the-scenes details on what’s changed, what’s reorganized, and why this new edition finally reflects how designers actually work. From real-life accessibility solutions and updated clearance dimensions to kitchen island power struggles and—yes—why no one should be table dancing on a 15" quartz overhang, this conversation covers it all.
We’ll also get into:
Why the 5th edition is easier to use than ever
Hot takes on lighting placement, appliance zones, and ADA appliances
When to follow the rules—and when to trust your gut
The dreaded island outlet code (and how designers are skirting it)
If you design kitchens, baths, or the 12 other “not-my-job-but-now-it-is” spaces in a home, this episode is packed with practical tips, honest stories, and the kind of code talk that won’t put you to sleep.
🛠️ Bonus: Stick around for resources you can start using today—including free code lookups and downloadable ergonomic guides.
🎧 Listen now and find out why the new NKBA guidelines are more than just a redesign—they're a redesigners’ secret weapon.
*********************************************
🖥 Dan's Website
💻 RSVP for The Designers Show
😊 Dan's Social Accounts
About the Co-Hosts:
John Schrader
Kevin Transue
Robin Rigby Fisher
Rene Rabbitt