We get to talk to Ross about what it was like at the first shop we both worked at, why he moved on, and what he's up to now. More of his work can be found at www.lukuthemad.com THANK YOU TO PATRONS - you can support the podcast and Youtube channel for just a few dollars a month at https://www.patreon.com/shaynesimmons Check out more of Shayne's work at https://www.shaynesimmons.com/links