Is your soul truly well—or is it quietly poisoned by codependence, unhealed trauma, or addiction in yourself or someone you love? In this powerful first conversation, Dr. Barbara sits down with Recovery Pastor and counselor John Eklund, founder of Recovery Alive, to unpack codependence through a Christ-centered, 12-step lens. They talk about what codependence really is (beyond the buzzwords), why it functions like people worship, and how Jesus uses the 12 steps, inner healing, and healthy attachment to restore shattered hearts. Note: The thoughts and opinions expressed by our guests are their own and may not always reflect the views of Dr. Barbara or Heart Journey Ministry.