Jack Antonoff says all he really wants out of life is to make records and tour, and that turns into a surprisingly heavy conversation with Kyle Meredith about grief, ancestry, community, religion, and why Bleachers’ new album Everyone for Ten Minutes accidentally became an origin story. They get into the “ancestral pact” of leaving home to chase art, Bruce Springsteen’s advice about building a life around music, the weirdness of becoming famous enough to watch your own history rewritten, and why Antonoff thinks concerts are closer to church than actual churches. There’s also plenty on balancing the producer side with the artist side, finding “magic” in recording sessions, and why sometimes the demo is still the best version no matter how much money you throw at it.

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