Jairus Victor Grove in conversation with David Goldberg discussing the subject of Jairus's book, Savage Ecology: War and Geopolitics at the End of the World, published by Duke University Press.

Jairus Victor Grove is Director of the University of Hawaii Research Center for Futures Studies and an Associate Professor of International Relations. Dr. Grove received his doctorate from Johns Hopkins University in 2011. His research focuses on the relationship between disruptive technology and global warfare and also the end of the world.

David A. M. Goldberg is a writer, teacher, cultural critic, media developer and native San Franciscan. His work focuses on those nasty spots where racism and digital technology appear to be combining forces to produce a new kind of sentient evil.