Joel and Steve reconnect after a couple weeks of awesome guests to reconnect and to see how each other are doing. Like people do.  They cover lots of ground, sometimes landing in the same old spot - with different perspective! 

Joel was recently a guest on an awesomely fun podcast - "Less Than 2000" to talk about the 90's Seattle Grunge scene and his favorite band Pearl Jam.  It's a blast, you should check it out on wherever you listen to podcasts.

Be sure to follow Joel and Steve on Instagram @TryingToBeBetterPodcast, email at [email protected]!

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