The Holy Ordinary podcast explores the contemplative dimensions of everyday life. Host Mark Longhurst interviews authors, thinkers, and activists who illuminate the sacred, the just, and the beautiful in the midst of the ordinary. This episode’s guest is Josue Perea. Josue is the Director of the Black Lives and Contemplation project for the Center for Spiritual Imagination, an organization that we both are active in through the new monastic Community of the Incarnation. He’s also the Executive Director of the Afrolatin Forum, which is a research and resource center that centers Blackness within Latinidad. This conversation covers contemplation and Josue's love for Black literary artists such as James Baldwin and bell hooks, spirituality and comic books, and more.

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