Why do people enter public service? How do they keep going when times get hard — or they wind up not lasting long in a presidential primary? Julián Castro talks about injustice, strategic voting, and his new podcast, “Our America.”

Julián Castro Had Trouble Smiling

On this season of With Friends Like These, Forgiveness and Reconciliation, host Ana Marie Cox looks at post-Trump America and tries to find models for how we forgive people, and if we should.

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Old 97’s band members and old time friends, Rhett Miller and Murray Hammond, join us for a conversation about songwriting, falling into friendship love and how a band is like an open marriage.


For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/withfriendslikethese.

Friend Goals: W/ Rhett Miller and Murry Hammond

Rising artist, Ciara Rae shares her experience of living in Nashville as a songwriter and musician. She tells us about the ups and downs of surviving in a forever evolving industry, staying true to her music and how songwriting helped her into recovery from an eating disorder.


For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/withfriendslikethese.

The Sound of Nashville

The Go-Go's made history as one of the most successful all-female bands ever. Bassist Kathy Valentine's new memoir puts their story in context and highlights her own rocky path to recovery, success, and serenity.. The author of ‘All I Ever Wanted’ joins us to talk songwriting, booze, and sex.



For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/withfriendslikethese.

What Was Going on with the Go-Go's with Kathy Valentine

The creator of Sans Bar, the bar without booze, Chris Marshall joins us for a conversation on recovery, community and how to make the perfect mocktail.


For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/withfriendslikethese.

Is a bar a bar without booze? On sober socializing with Chris Marshall

This week is the 400th anniversary of what America knows as Thanksgiving. Join us as food historian Linda Civitello takes us through how the traditional meal has evolved through the decades and what items we love to indulge in owe their existence to indigenous people. We explore the good, the bad and ugly that comes along with this beloved holiday. From the food racism to legacy of the indigenous people and everything in between! 


For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/withfriendslikethese.

Julián Castro Had Trouble Smiling

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