Lady Gaga and Katy Perry both arrived in 2008 and recently released albums hailed as returns to form. What does that mean in 2020 in their own trajectories and the wider pop landscape?

Lady Gaga and Katy Perry, Preserving Pop’s Old Guard

The Popcast is hosted by Jon Caramanica, a pop music critic for The New York Times. It covers the latest in popular music criticism, trends and news. 

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Lady Gaga and Katy Perry, Preserving Pop’s Old Guard

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