Just a couple years ago when we talked with Ernie Svenson, the attorney who talks tech fluently, AI was not even a thing. Now in late 2025, it’s the only thing. Ernie joins Tim and Jeff to discuss the rapidly evolving landscape of AI in legal practice, why AI gives small firms an advantage, and how attorneys can safely leverage these tools without falling victim to “hallucinations.”

We discuss how to embrace AI tools without anxiety (or with the appropriate amount of anxiety), starting with inconsequential applications before moving to more consequential legal work.

• Pattern Recognition on Steroids: AI excels at pattern recognition and language expression, ideal for first drafts and oral argument prep.
• Not an AI Problem: Recent sanctions for citing hallucinated cases reflect a longstanding due diligence issue. AI just exposes attorneys who don't verify sources.
• Small Firm Advantage: AI works best as a force multiplier for individual cognitive ability, giving solo practitioners and small firms who master these tools an edge over larger organizations.
• Agentic AI on the Horizon: While fully autonomous AI agents need careful supervision, basic applications like data entry are already available, with complex applications developing rapidly for case prioritization and KPI extraction.