In this conversation, Caroline J. Sumlin discusses the need to dismantle oppressive systems and the philosophy of liberation in parenting and education. She emphasizes the importance of child liberation and how homeschooling can serve as a means of achieving this. The conversation also explores the impact of white supremacy on education and the necessity of personal growth in the journey towards liberation. Caroline shares her insights on navigating the complexities of parenting and activism, ultimately calling for a collective effort to empower change.