In this episode, Yulia talks with writer and teacher Perdita Finn, author of Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World and the forthcoming Mothers of Magic: Summoning the Wisdom of Our Ancestors.

They explore death, our relationship with the dead, and how reconnecting with ancestors can transform grief and fear into belonging and love. The conversation weaves together ecology, ritual, intuition, and everyday practices for living with the dead as companions and guides.

00:00 Death as Part of Life
06:20 Civilization, Fear, and Separation from the Dead
13:45 Cycles of Return and Ecological Belonging
21:30 Asking the Dead for Help
31:15 Grief, Ritual, and Letting Go
38:40 What Failure Teaches Through the Dead
45:10 From Fear to Faith
49:30 Resources and Closing Reflections

About the guest:

Perdita Finn is the author of Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World and the forthcoming Mothers of Magic: Summoning the Wisdom of Our Ancestors. She describes the dead themselves as her teachers — offering guidance with a perspective that is long, generous, intimate, and deeply loving. Through her writing, workshops, and courses, she helps people learn to “see with the eyes of the dead” while still alive, transforming grief, deepening connection, and rewilding our spiritual lives.

→  Perdita on Substack: https://perditafinn.substack.com/

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