After episode 48 ended, the conversation kept going. So on this episode, Matt Eckert joins Micheal for the start of a two-parter in which they discuss the unification of Samwise. They begin with an exploration of the function and value of quests in myth and story, identify specific life quests that have impacted them both, and start to name ways in which stories like the Lord of the Rings can help us make shifts in our own unique stories.