Some pastors seem to get better with every passing year or decade. Some pastors laugh and play sports and pursue friendships. Some pastors have done their thing and are now “retired” but pouring in to help younger pastors thrive and survive. Knute Larson loves Jesus, Jeanine, and Notre Dame football. His alarming sense of humor and warm love for people are contagious and life-giving. An avid windsurfer, loving grandpa, and dune-climber, Knute also enjoys collecting hats and clocks and old sermon files. Instead of checking out after fifty-plus years of pastoring, Knute loves being a Leadership consultant and pastor coach on demand. Join Knute and Gary as they ramble for a while about friendships, schedules, pastor groups, and ministry life for a while. You can find Knute’s resources and joy at KnuteLarson.com. As for the OG pastor himself, he’s probably on a bike somewhere with his wife and grandkids.